Wednesday, 10 October 2007

Autistic shower bondage


I would like some advice please on what i can do in the shower?!

Stop that! I am a respectable 'lady' (cough!)

This is a photo of my bathroom. As you can see the walls are wood cladding. I did have tiles but as C head bangs he smashed rather a few tiles over the years. Bathrooms are not his favorite place as he doesn't like being washed, he cant do it himself and he finds human touch difficult.

As C was frequently smashing more tiles and slivers of tile would get under his skin, i ripped all the tiles out and had wood put in. I don't have a shower as again not something he can tolerate until recently. As he can now, i have been looking at showers ( this would make washing him after smearing much quicker!)

Yesterday i had a bathroom man come round to discuss. After he saw the wood cladding he felt this was not an option for a shower. I explained the problem and he simply said, 'put a head restraint on your son'!! I just asked him if they were such a thing as rubber tiles? He didn't know.

As people say so many daft things to me about C, i didn't even register what he had said till after he had gone!

So i gooogled head restraints and found these.....










But how would this stop him headbanging?

How would i get it on him? (see my fireman post!)

And how would i wash his hair?!!!

So i googled some more, and found some other options!!




But somehow i think i would get done for child abuse!

So on a serious note, has anyone any ideas of a soft water proof option for walls round a shower in a bath?

Thank you!

54 comments:

Blossomcottage said...

Why not have it plastered and painted with the kind of paint they use for swimming pools ( not marine blue!!)my lovely hubby uses a special kind of paint for his operating theatre at his equine parctice, it has a rubber solution in it. I doubt it would be any harder than the wood you are using at the moment and at least it would not shatter like the tiles.

Casdok said...

Plaster dents, and crumbles after more head banging. I have holes all over the house!
But thanks for the thought!

Linda and her Surroundings said...

How about just a hand shower that attaches to the tap. Your son may want to handle it himself. It is a hard thing to know what to do - apart from having an outdoor shower plumbed and he can stand naked to the world and enjoy the space. I do know someone who has a claw foot bath plumbed outside in their garden. Looks good.

Casdok said...

He loves being naked in the garden, so i think it would work! But not really practical with the weather here in the uk!
He isnt able to hold a shower (wont take his fingers out of his ears!)

BenefitScroungingScum said...

Can you get any kind of rubber tiling? I imagine it might be quite expensive but anything like this 'should' surely be at least part funded by SS?
If not, some kind of wet room, SS definitely fit and fund them, but again it seems to be luck as to who gets them! I wonder if the shower outdoors is actually a good idea, a friend of mine has an outdoor hotub, in the UK (they're becoming very popular apparently) and because your in hot water you don't feel the cold even in mid winter. I don't know what the logistics would be like, but C might not get as cold as you'd think? BG x

Crystal Jigsaw said...

Blimey, Casdok, where do you go to do your surfing!!

Surely there is padded wall material which can be lined with a waterproof tarpaulin or suchlike. I decent plumber would be able to fix the pipes into the wall, this must have been done else where in the world.

Let us know what happens. And keep surfing!!

Crystal xx

Casdok said...

No C dosnt feel the cold like we do, but i would have to be out thre with him, and i dont relish the thought if he has smeared during the night!

And yes i thought of a wetroom, but i like my baths to much!

Yes there must be something out there!

Elissa said...

I'm sorry Casdok, I have absolutely no ideas to add to what has already been suggested.
But I must say, some of those head restraints freak me out!!!

PS Really hope you find a solution of some sort!

Elizabethd said...

What sites do you visit Casdok???
Talk to an upholsterer, that sounds odd, but he might know of a suitable plastic tye of material that could be padded and stuck on?

Jen said...

We've had the most luck with showers/baths that have "tub surrounds" in them (there's a picture of one at http://www.todaysbathsystems.com/ , although you can definitely get them cheaper than they show them there). They're basically a one piece unit that fits directly over the walls, and I've found that they're springy enough that neither of my kids have been able to crack them or hurt themselves on them (I've got two head-bangers).

I've also had luck with my daughter lately by starting to use the shower massage to rinse her hair off- neither of the kids would ever go in the shower if their lives depended on it, but lately I've been able to use the shower massager to rinse Rachel's hair at the end of her bath. I'm hoping that eventually that might lead to her having a shower, but then again, hope always springs eternal!

Faith said...

Sorry, havent got any thoughts either. One has to be careful what one types into google!

FunkyMunky said...

Sorry, I can't suggest anything either. But I hope you find something suitable.

Those head restraints are indeed quite freaky!!

Good luck.

Ivy said...

THere are paints that make wood completely waterproof, maybe you experiment with the paint blossom has sugested? Plexy glass shower cabinets are see through and relativly flexible maybe they can withstand C's head bangigng? Find an other bathroom man some people are just too lazy to come up with unusual ideas. Maybe there is a showroom for bathrooms for the disabeled around where you live, maybe someone there is more understanding and willing to help than the chap you wrote about.

captain corky said...

I would talk to somebody at a Home Depot type of store. They might have some good answers for you.

buffalodickdy said...

Sheets of water resistant rubber(synthetic) comes in all sizes, colors, densities, and thicknesses. A good industrial supply co. that carries rubber and plastic would be a good place to start. Adhesives are available also. You may actually come up with something that can be put up or taken down as required. Good Luck!

Dr. Deb said...

Why not try putting rubber kitchen floor tiles on the walls? I think your idea is a great one.

And ignorant people say the dumbest things, don't they?

Ashley's Mom said...

How about some of the padding that is used in gymnasium walls:

gym wall padding

or

more wall padding

Perhaps it could be treated with a waterproofing solution also.

When my Ashley was very small and was in an enclosed hospital bed, she had bumper pads that were almost like the wall padding, and they were treated in some way for antibacterials properties. That might be good for cleaning up after a smearing.

I'll see if I can find any other ideas.

dgibbs said...

I found a portable shower
http://www.shower-anywhere.com/__Economy_Shower_Stalls/__economy_shower_stalls.html

and Waterproofing paint for wood here http://www.armorpoxy.com/home16.html

Good luck!

Ashley's Mom said...

Casdok, here's one more link. These are rubber tiles - normally used on a floor, but I think they could also be used on a wall. It might make an interesting 'modern' bathroom. And this particular product comes in several different colors.

rubber tiles

BBC said...

I don't know about rubber tiles, but a person can get all sorts of rubber matting, and in different colors.

What about a rubber floor runner like behind bars? They are in many bars and places of business where people stand much of the day. They are tough and stand up well and could be attached to a shower wall.

I don't know how well it would hold up but maybe sealed cork tiles would work. But you would want to put a fan on after the shower, to dry it more quickly.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Anyway, off to the retreat in a few hours, be safe out there. Hugs.

Christy said...

First of all. I am very disturbed by those photos.

Secondly...

Have you ever seen this? It is a poster specifically made for people who have autism.

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art39197.asp

I don't know if it will help at all, but since your son is older now perhaps it is worth a try.

Beth said...

I Googled - couldn't find anything but there's got to be something out there! What do hospitals use?

Those head restraints make me cringe.

BBC said...

More thoughts on that. Mats that you can hang on the walls when he is in it?

Here many of the shower stalls are made of fiberglass, mine is, they are tough and flex some when hit so aren't as harmful as a hard tile. And the corners are rounded on most of them.

I'm guessing that a person could also find a tough sprayable rubber compound.

You didn't say if he likes to sit in a shower, he may handle sitting better than standing.

I think if it was me I would make a shower building out in the yard. 6X6 or 8x8 feet square. Insulated and heated when it was needed. And I would put a plastic or cedar bench in it. Maybe a window with a view of the garden.

He wouldn't feel so closed up that way.

Niksmom said...

Wow, Casdok! Those are some freaky head restraints! LOL I do' thave any suggestions other than some of the excellent ones made by other people...rubber floor tiles gluedto the walls, cork, waterproof paint for the wood. If you wanted to do a total remodel you could certainly do a one-piece tubb/shower with a fiberglass surround.

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing; that would be very useful to know indeed!

Casdok said...

Wow you lot!!
Thank you all so much for all these wonderful ideas. I will certainly give them all some thought, and then will post the pics when its done.
Its so nice having lots of people to ask!

mommy~dearest said...

I was going to suggest rubber floor tiles as well, but I see I have once again been beaten to it.

Am I the only one who laughed hysterically at the pics?

Casdok said...

Looks like it!!!

Is there something you would like to share???

LittleBrownDog said...

Not much to add to the excellent suggestions here, except I'd be careful with rubber floor tiles, as if the water were to get underneath them (ie via the joins) they may lift off. What about rubber sheet flooring applied to the walls? There's some wonderful stuff with raised circles in it whose name I can't just remember at the moment - I'll let you know when it comes back to me.

vic said...

I can offer no help for the shower problem, sorry.

The photos disturb me!! Why do people want these things on? Scary!!

Eileen said...

When I had to go to PT after breaking my knee caps, years ago, they also did rehabilitation with people with head injuries. In the pool area, around the walls, they had these special tiles, that were soft. You might want to check with a Rehab. Medicine (that treat head injuries) to just ask if they have any ideas or resourses. I with head injuries balance is a huge issue and falling in the shower is common, so they might now of a company that makes adaptive equipment. Just a thought.
Also, so sorry to hear about what happened a few weeks ago. I read a few weeks back and think I found what you described. Makes me so mad. I am interested because I do have nonverbal children in my school and when I have had to try to communicate with them "concerns" the teachers have, it just really hits me, how they could be so easily victimized. A few children I managed to make a case for, on their behalf, but usually Child Protective is hesitant to get involved unless in is obvious bruising. Even that, can not be explained away so easily by the parents. You touched on an issue that I am faced with from time to time, that is most difficult and frustrating!

Casdok said...

It must be difficult and frustrating but sounds as though you are on the ball. Its good to hear that there are people like you.
And that you for your suggestion, i will look into it.

Nancy said...

Wow, that's a hard one ... I g00gled looking for something and it seems like the things others have posted are about it. I like the idea of checking with a rehab center for ideas. Keep us posted =)

Mary P Jones (MPJ) said...

Wow. What an offensive idea from the bathroom man. My first thought was of WonderMat -- I bought some soft flooring there. Maybe it could be used on walls.

Thanks so much for stopping by my blog, by the way. And apologies for it having taken me so long to return the favor. Things have been a little crazy on my end, and I'm behind in my blog reading!

Ian Lidster said...

I think some sort of waterproof plastic foam would work best for your needs. The other restraints look like more fun, but fall into an entirely different realm, methinks.

Vi vi vi vooom!!!!!!!! said...

I'm amazed he didn't recommend just to take him in the garden and hose him down!

Cathy said...

You could ask Fledglings at

http://www.fledglings.org.uk/

they might be able to source something for you, or try ringing the NAS parent line...they may have used something in one of their schools or homes.

Casdok said...

They look intersting. Thank you!

Holly said...

Boats frequently have wooden showers, teak, so it would be pricey, but doable. I think perhaps you had a lazy bathroom guy (better described as ignorant).

I think the other ideas about adaptive places, rubber mats are better (teak is quite hard), but if that doesn't work out, you might want to contact a marina/boat builder.

Ms.L said...

In Canada we have foam tiles that are like puzzle pieces and are often put together to make a soft floor. They are durable and not absorbant..they may work..

But Why? said...

I loved the edgy humour in this post.

I wish I had a solution. I was thinking some sort of inflatable, bouncy-castle-style shower cubicle might be an idea. (I think I'd quite enjoy one of those.) I doubt they exist, but perhaps if a large enough potential market could be demonstrated, someone would make them...

Maddy said...

Looks like everyone's already covered all the bases. You used to be able [GB] to buy thick cork tiles which would be soft but I don't if if they'd be that easy to clean.
Best wishes

Shari said...

I hope you can find something. What a challenge. I tried googling and got zilch. Sorry. The others have good suggestions like calling a rehab place.

I didn't think there were that many kinds of head restraints. Though some of the pictures looked, shall we say, on the kinky side.

Justin said...

When I worked in a facility that provided services to people with disabilities, including ones with autisim, they had an open floor shower, one you might find in a gym or fitness club. The space was good, but to actually have one placed in one's personal home probably unpractical and costly. Good luck.

Marla Fauchier Baltes said...

I like the wooden boat shower wall idea.It woule look nice in the bathroom too. It seems there is always something that has to be figured out. When I first opened your blog I thought, "Woah! She is going off topic here...way off topic!" Kinda funny.

dykewife said...

you can get a hanging shower rod, it's circular and hangs from the ceiling. they are frequently used with those old clawfoot tubs because they are always away from the wall. then you can get two shower curtains, one for the back and one for the front. that way you don't have to put up new wall boards and you can have a shower.

TheBirdman33 said...

I don't know about your shower but I am so turned on right now!

singleMILF said...

First love your blog...it made me laugh out loud. Thanks for visiting mine.

Let me tell you what an amazing woman you are full of so much strength.

Have you seen the Errol Morris series, "FIRST PERSON"? He did an episode called Stairway to Heaven about an autistic woman who developed a way to slaughter cattle that was less frightening. Along the way she also created a "hugging box" that she could fit into and the box would basically hug her entire body. It calmed all her never endings. Pretty incredible stuff.

Let me know if you can't find it. I transferred it from film to videotape so it should be out there...

TheBirdman33 said...

What about carpeting the wall (a durable indoor outdoor) and then permanently attaching a shower curtain to it, like stapling or nailing a shower curtain right to the wall. That is off the top of my head and I'm not a very handy guy, so there could be obvious flaws in that plan...but to me it seems like a soft and waterproof option

Ellee said...

I had to check out your site after reading your challenge about your head gear on Ian's site. And I must say it is very entertaining.

Anonymous said...

Liz from I Speak of Dreams. I'd talk to a large equine vet practice that has a surgery recovery room. The floors and the walls are nice springy foam, and it's washed (sanitized) after each patient. The drain is in the center of the floor, which might not be practical for you, but the padding may work out.

Steve said...

Just found this site and as a car enthusiast (and a Special Needs teacher) thought of this. www.hexaflex.co.uk/rubber-cote.html It's a rubberised, paint on product that dries as a rubber surface covering. It's actual use is to paint under the wheelarches of cars to stop stone damage. It is vey hard wearing and could,I suspect be built up in layers. Downside is that it is a Black finish so would need some paint covering, but I would have thought that was not impossible. Good Luck, Steve

Alin Steglinski said...

wow... this is interesting... i say you just get a load of those theraband thingys and give him a good tight mummy wrapping hehe... i love those theraband thingys... i wish i was back in elementary school where the OTs actually understood my sensory issues!

Aerial said...

Ah, the above pictures demonstrate a typical problem of the internet...

I tried to find out more info about trance suits, i.e. inflatable latex suits those were originally invented for meditation, deep relaxation and alternative psychotherapy (including autism).

But all the internet spits out about them (same with other types of sensual self-realization involving latex or rubber) is just SM stuff, because the original users have been scared off the web by that. Who claims there is free speech online???

Aerial - a sincerely confessed plastic-shamen

Anonymous said...

When I was little we had a bathroom lined in cork tiles. They were fairly bouncy though admit I don't know how resiliant they would be.